Improving The Social Aspect

Read a post from Glyph of Jai this morning, about how name calling is becoming more prominent in WoW and she’s absolutely right.  I believe this is because if treaded mildly, it doesn’t validate being reported.  Again, if they do it right.  But let’s be honest in this scenario right is still wrong. 

Then again, that’s one of the big drawbacks in World of Warcraft, or any MMO for that matter.  I’ve advocated for some time that you can take the most timid person in the world but the second they’re behind their computer screen and anonymity they become the biggest asshat you know.  I can say this with experience, as a former guildmate fit this model to a “T.”  Or perhaps “A” is more suiting.  My observation is this creates the opportunity for amplified passive/aggressiveness.

So, you have countless douches out there who are just jerks to begin with.  Then you have people who simply follow along and conform to said nonsense.  On top of that, you get the people I mentioned above such as the former guildmate.  That quickly becomes a large percentage of the player population.  When you’re on one server, it could be bad (Khaz’Goroth-US) or it could be limited (pick nearly any other server).  Once Blizzard opened up the LFD and LFR however, the potential for exposure grew.

Individuals, a couple or trio, or god forbid all guildies, can be complete hypocrits and/or downright mean.  Many forget what it was like when they were first playing the game.  Or, given the evolution of the game, maybe they became a product of the environment.  I find it hard sometimes not to do the same.  I was a bit disappointed the other day when a friend of mine was doing 11k dps in a Heroic I was trying to heal.  There was no reason for me to be that way, even if the number was low.  I tried my best to respond in a helpful manner, but I was still ashamed of my immediate reaction from behind the screen.  Others would’ve been far worse about it and that’s not right either.  People would rather go off on a player than try to help them.

So how do we make things better?  Well, no matter what you do the asshats are going to be there.  Also, you can’t ban them for their personality.  Sure, some of us would just as soon put them on their own server, but that’s not going to happen either.  You can’t just ignore them either, because eventually you’re likely to come across them on another toon.  But, if the ignore feature was better then perhaps it would be an option.

I would love, for starters, for the Ignore feature to affect the player account rather than the toon.  If you encounter some clown, then you should be able to ignore their entire account rather than just one character.  This also would reduce the griefing which sometimes occurs.  Raise your hand if you put someone on ignore and suddenly they whispered you on another toon.  My point exactly.  This would no longer happen.  You’ll also reduce the Random Finder people who will roll a level one on your server just to further their point.  I’ve seen that happen, too.

To me, that would be a great start.  But to tie-in to that, I’d love something more advanced.  I say I would love to see it, but I don’t honestly know what kind of difficulty scale there would be in implementing this idea.  When you queue for a random, you would not be paired with people on your Ignore list.  If you ignore someone mid-run or mid-bg, then obviously the settings wouldn’t kick in until the next time you queued.  The first drawback that would come to mind is a longer wait time.  You know what, so what?  I know people who have sat in a queue for close to an hour only to get grouped with the biggest idiots in the game.  Wouldn’t it be worth the wait to increase the odds of a dungeon run you’ll actually enjoy?

Indeed, hard to say if that feature would be attainable.  But certainly account-wide Ignore is well within the realm of possibility.  If I can have a friends list that shows me when someone is online, and who they’re on with, it shouldn’t be that difficult to essentially do the opposite with the same type of feature.  Come on Blizz, make it happen.

20 thoughts on “Improving The Social Aspect

  1. Jai July 25, 2012 / 9:23 am

    I did not think of an account wide ignore, that would be a great feature that they could come out with in MoP or even a hotfix. I doubt I am the only one complaining about this though.

    • JD Kenada July 25, 2012 / 11:07 am

      Not by a long shot. 😉

  2. Matty July 25, 2012 / 9:52 am

    True, but then I couldn’t have gone to the other server and wagged my finger at a jerk player. But I was sorry I did that, not because he didn’t deserve to be told off, but because I knew it wouldn’t do any good. So how do we prevent the griefing jerks in the first place? And, I put player on ignore once, and changed my mind, and it took a lot of explaining to regain the trust and friendship. I am not saying it’s a bad idea, I’m just saying as with all broad-sweeping laws, there are unintended consequences.

    • JD Kenada July 25, 2012 / 11:14 am

      I do agree completely with what you’re saying. It’s certainly a hard balance, and the fact that you can un-ignore someone at least gives you the option to sort things out. Plus, I know people who will have that one character they’ll hop on just to be a douche in trade and I’m like “Really? Why?” If people ignored that character, he’d be ignored completely, which I think would curb part of the problem.

      But, yes, you’re right. As with anything there would need to be balance. That’s why I throw out ideas instead of working for an MMO. 🙂

  3. Cymre July 25, 2012 / 11:38 am

    I would love an ignore account feature but then I’d also like an invisible feature too at times 😛

    • Matty July 25, 2012 / 12:58 pm

      I know – the “busy” button seems so harsh to me –

      • JD Kenada July 25, 2012 / 2:07 pm

        Plus, I find when I set myself to busy or DnD, people don’t notice. They just see I’m on and want to chat. Sometimes it’s important and sometimes it isn’t. Me? I’m just too nice usually to say “bugger off.” Lol.

    • JD Kenada July 25, 2012 / 2:06 pm

      I have the invisible feature. It’s called “trial account.” 🙂

      Truth be told, it’s great for those moments you want to work on a transmog and focus solely on that.

      • Cymre July 25, 2012 / 7:37 pm

        LOL, mine’s the beta but addons were buggy, esp MogIt last time I tried =/

  4. Carla Doak July 25, 2012 / 11:44 am

    I would argue that said guildmate could be a douchecanoe outside the game as well. The anonymity just helped him upgrade from a douchecanoe to a doucheyacht.

    • Matty July 25, 2012 / 12:57 pm

      LOL! But he’s probably just a little dingy..

      • JD Kenada July 25, 2012 / 2:06 pm

        You have no idea how much I ❤ you right now…

    • Jai July 25, 2012 / 1:19 pm

      Is it JD? could never be him. Granted I do yell at people but that is not typing or using vent or any other voice chat program. It is me yelling at the monitor hoping they can hear me on the other side.

      I know, it doesnt work that way but I can be hopeful right?

      • JD Kenada July 25, 2012 / 2:09 pm

        Honestly Jai, I’m surprised you don’t remember who it was.

        …and we all monitor yell on occasion. It’s like chicken soup for the gamer. Or 50 Shades of Game…really, take your pick.

        • Jai July 25, 2012 / 2:40 pm

          kinda very much tired right now. and if it is who i think it is, i have erased said person from my memory. took two vicodins. woke up an hour later to someone texting needing healing advice and now i am just getting back to bed. very much tired

    • JD Kenada July 25, 2012 / 2:06 pm

      That’s a whole other rant…lol.

  5. shoryl July 25, 2012 / 9:20 pm

    First off, JD, the low-DPSer at least was aware of his situation. That helps. Also, I think you’ve mentioned that you don’t know much about his particular spec. (And I was able to help quite a bit, I believe, though I haven’t checked in to see if he’s had a chance to take the spec for a spin yet)

    Second, I believe* that when you put someone on ignore, LFD does not group you with them. I’m not 100% certain, but I know that once I got the same asshat dps in consecutive dungeons while leveling Gurdrid one day. I ignored him, and he was suddenly gone from my life. As a tank, it had a certain amount of Schaudenfreude.

    • Jai July 25, 2012 / 9:35 pm

      I have had people I put on ignore for doing things that should not have been done and granted it made it so I did not group with that character but it does not stop you from being grouped with any other character that player has.

      I ran into that a few times, the person remembered my name and brought up their character name and I saw I had that character on ignore but not the one in the group currently so I had to ignore another name from the exact same person.

      My apologies if I am not making much sense to anyone but myself

      • JD Kenada July 26, 2012 / 4:51 am

        This makes complete sense to me Jai. It’s a slightly more elaborate telling of one of my points, so it’s pretty clear.

    • JD Kenada July 26, 2012 / 4:50 am

      Your point is valid, but that doesn’t make me any less disappointed in myself.

      Interesting about the LFD, if that’s true I didn’t know.

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